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Post Icon Posted: Aug 12th, 2011 at 01:45 am

I was just wondering if anyone who sells on eBay is noticing a rise in nonpaying bidders recently.
I have been selling on eBay sine 1998 and in the last 13 years (up to end of June 2011) I had about 15 Nonpaying bidders out of about 7900+ transactions. (current feedback 5149 100% positive (many repeat buyers who don't count towards rating)
In the last month alone I have had 6 NPB all on Halo MB items.

Per eBay and The Bloks Forum policy, I won't list names but I thought you may want a heads up.
In the past it was usually the people with 0 feedback or the Noob's but I am getting people with decent feedback who don't reply to numerous requests for payment and the eBay nonpaying bidder request.

Chime in if you having the same issues...

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Post Icon Posted: Aug 12th, 2011 at 01:53 am

I have had four non-paying buyers so far this year.
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Post Icon Posted: Aug 12th, 2011 at 05:31 am

So what punitive measures does eBay employ against such persons? I always pay immediately upon winning an auction and I have yet to have a non-payor myself although I don't sell nearly the volume the two of you do.
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Post Icon Posted: Aug 12th, 2011 at 06:19 am

Aug 12th, 2011 at 05:31 am, mwcarlson wrote:
So what punitive measures does eBay employ against such persons?


Virtually nothing. They always seem to favor the buyer. I don't sell as much as I used to (and certainly not as much as Stuntpk and Russell) I used to ship worldwide and now I only ship to Canada and the US.(too many losses and too many refunds) Most of the stuff I sell now is for friends.
So far last month I've only had one non-payer.
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Post Icon Posted: Aug 12th, 2011 at 06:32 am

Ebay doesn't have anything; however, a lot of sellers combat this by stating that they will only ship your item after payment.

As for the non-payers, IMHO that's fairly simple. Teens and children of younger and younger ages are using services meant for responsible adults; Thich leads to what you're seeing now with the non-payers.
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Post Icon Posted: Aug 12th, 2011 at 06:34 am

Aug 12th, 2011 at 05:31 am, mwcarlson wrote:
I always pay immediately upon winning an auction and I have yet to have a non-payor myself although I don't sell nearly the volume the two of you do.


Same here, although Ive only sold once.
Only time I don't pay immediately is if payday is a few days off, but I'll email the seller to let them know upfront.
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Post Icon Posted: Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

Aug 12th, 2011 at 05:31 am, mwcarlson wrote:
So what punitive measures does eBay employ against such persons? I always pay immediately upon winning an auction and I have yet to have a non-payor myself although I don't sell nearly the volume the two of you do.


As PeteRock mentions,
eBay has recently changed the rules that totally favors the buyer even if they are wrong. Sellers used to be able to give negative feedback for late payment, no payment or just inform the community of strange dealings. Now only the buyer is allowed to give negative feedback. They also have this 5 start rating system which again favors the buyer. Unless you get 5 stars 98% of your transactions, you get punished and are limited in how many items you can list.

And then there are the fees... ugh.

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Post Icon Posted: Aug 18th, 2011 at 02:48 pm

I have had 2 non paying buyers, but what burns me are the ones that open cases. I have had 4 cases opened in the last 2 months and 2 of them ebay has awarded the buyer back there money. I know that the bloks and lego had got to these people but with out a tracking number I am helpless but to see my money and items disapear. I think im going to have to charge an extra 20 bucks for tracking numbers as I am out over 150.00 now in lego. The people opening cases are usually from Taiwan or China and when I even explain to Ebay it takes up to 30 days sending international parcel, they ignore me.

PS: I have bought a few things from StuntPK and highly reccomend buying from him. Super fast shipping, and easy to deal with.
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Post Icon Posted: Aug 18th, 2011 at 03:35 pm

Try excluding Taiwan and China from your ship-to countries.

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Post Icon Posted: Aug 18th, 2011 at 03:44 pm

Aug 18th, 2011 at 03:35 pm, LOKACollector wrote:
Try excluding Taiwan and China from your ship-to countries.

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Post Icon Posted: Aug 18th, 2011 at 04:06 pm

Ya, I think you guys are right im only going to ship to North America, Australia, and UK from now on.
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Post Icon Posted: Aug 18th, 2011 at 07:27 pm

I just had a guy this week get into a frenzied bidding war with another guy over one of my mom's old Barbies. Drove the winning bid to $395. The next day I got an email from the winning bidder asking me to cancel the transaction because he did not have the money to pay. WTF?
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Post Icon Posted: Sep 1st, 2011 at 09:09 pm

Aug 18th, 2011 at 07:27 pm, Russell844 wrote:
I just had a guy this week get into a frenzied bidding war with another guy over one of my mom's old Barbies. Drove the winning bid to $395. The next day I got an email from the winning bidder asking me to cancel the transaction because he did not have the money to pay. WTF?


I just had one of those last week (Not for $395 though) and a new one. My son logged in and bid on stuff without our knowledge and wanted to cancel two auction wins.

This makes 10 since the middle of July.
Some people are just idiots...

I have also noticed several Bloks Forum members who bid on stuff. Thanks. (All of them paid so nobody here is one of the losers)

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Post Icon Posted: Sep 10th, 2011 at 01:42 pm

I got tired of non paying bidders, so I opened an eBay store and like 90% of my listings are fixed price now.
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Post Icon Posted: Sep 10th, 2011 at 01:47 pm

This is why I just give old toys to co-workers and the Goodwill instead of trying to sell anything Smiley
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